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Guildford farmers market

December 19, 2017

A hard frost this morning.

Colombian guest coffee off FCB kiosk at Guildford Station. Not as good as yesterday. What a difference a barista makes.

Walking in the High Street, two people dressed to look like Police, but not Police. On their backs, Surrey Law Enforcement. I later did a bit of checking. As I suspected, and not acceptable, the council has its own private security force patrolling the streets.

Today an extra farmers market. A Christmas market. The farmers market at the beginning of the month a fortnight ago, was not as incorrectly reported by Guildford Tourist Information Office a Christmas market.

Why does a stall have turkeys on the stall all day? This raises serious health issues, to which the local council turns a blind eye.

The honey stall, today their last market. They will not be doing any more markets. I suggested try the Farnham Maltings Christmas Market end of November, as at least it is indoors.

There is another honey stall, but not as good.

With a friend in Maplin, she bought a pair of headphones. I asked coud be brought back if faulty. The girl serving said no. This is clear breach of Consumer Protection Legislation. She then backed down, and said yes, if faulty. It is appalling the way these shops try it on.

Excellent lunch at Bamboo Shoots, honey crunch chicken.

Yesterday The Village was open. Today not. Clueless what they are doing.

I was pleased to see Surrey Hills Coffee put their coffee grounds out to be collected. I asked, did pople actually collect. They said yes.

Santander goes from bad to worse. As walk in, someone with obviously nothing better to do, can I help you? Yes, man the tills. A girl having hassle. Has lost her card, waiting three weeks and no card. Cashier, who claimed to be the manager, said address was invalid. Why not actually ask the girl to confirm whether the address correct or not, not claim the address invalid? Only when the girl created a fuss, was she then offered £50. Is this £50 every day? In which case, why not say so? In Halifax, £50 every day whilst waiting for a new card, £300 if take in passport. And why this hassle at cashier desk? Why not a desk for problems? Maybe manned by the jobsworth stood around doing nothing.

Coffee at Harris + Hoole. OK, but not great.

I asked of their KeepCups, was there a great take up? No. I suggested, target those who are picking up a coffee to take back to the office with a big discount. Everyone else, encourage to relax with a coffee in store. No, not aware that in the New Year Pret a Manger will be selling takeway coffee for 49p. Nor that 2.5 billion coffee cups are thrown away every year. Some people ask for two cups, one inside the other. I suggested check out Kaffeeform coffee cups, coffee cups made from recycled coffee grounds. Though the best use of coffee grounds is for the garden.

The famers market was busy, or at least there were a lot of people on the street. Probably Christmas shoppers, as a lot pf people on the street yesterday. I doubt for the farmers market due to complete lack of publicity at last market. And I noticed in contrast to the last market, everyone had a lot of stock left.

Guildford farmers market the first Tuesday of the month. There will be no market in January.


Guildford farmers market

December 5, 2017

A cold damp day, that got colder.

Missed my train thanks to barriers going down and unable to cross the line. Thirty-seven minutes wait in the cold for next reain. Train has no wifi, or at least has wifi, wifi does not connect to Internet.

Today new fare increases announced for the railways, the biggest hike in five years.

Waterstone’s marginally better choice of coffee books, but still not great.

Lots of stalls selling junk.

Many stalls either sold out or almost sold out.

Guildford Tourist Information Office becoming very tardy of late. Usually they are pretty good, but of late, erroneous information.

Today was not the Christmas market. I asked one of the stalls. No, he then told me Christmas market in two week’s time. He thanked me for reminding him, and said he only found out this morning.

Apple stall also told me a Christmas market in two week;s time.

But no information on the market.

I popped in Guildford TIC and let them know their mistake. Due care not taken as they  sent out incorrect information. I am pleased to see, they did send out the correct information later in the day for the Christmas market.  Though to be fair they were not the source of the wrong information, they simply re-tweeted it.

Turkey stall piled high with turkeys. Who is going to buy a turkey twenty days before Christmas? What are they going to do with it?

And why was the stall piled high with turkeys. Temperature was 9C. This is well outside safe storage limit for poultry. The only positive that could be said, is that in the summer, they have poultry on their stall when 30C.

Does Environmental Heath turn a blind eye when it is their own market.

Excellent lunch at Bamboo Shoots.

The Little Red Book of Offers, an offer at Kalm Kitchen, what used to be Glutton & Glee, hot drink, free mince pie. Con would be a better description, a tiny mince pie, what many would give away free. The girl serving looked embarrassed and apologised that is twas so time. The coffee undrinkable.

By now, even before I made the mistake of a coffee in Kalm Kitchen, very cold.

Next to Ben’s Records, a new coffee shop to open, but who?

I should have caught four o;clock train, as last Friday, caught five o’clock train. No functioning wifi on the train.

Guildford farmers market

November 7, 2017

A cold wet miserable day.

A dosa. A mistake as I was having lunch later.

Half a loaf of bread and a couple of cakes off Celtic Bakers.

Tempted by tomatoes.

A couple of flapjacks off new stall selling flapjacks.

Honey from honey stall.

Apples off apple stall.

A few days ago an article claiming apples left rotting on the trees, lack of pickers, would be worst when we left EU.

It sounded like typical scaremongering from Leave campaign.

I asked were the apples rotting on the trees?


A few trees yes but in general no.

Thus as I suspected the post a few days ago of apples rotting on the tress was garbage

What of the workers and impact of leaving EU?

A mix of migrant workers from Roumania, a few from Poland and the rest from UK.

The migrant workers move around, crops are seasonal.

Could not see any problems obtaining migrant workers once leave EU and saw it as scaremongering by Leave campaign.

Lunch at bamboo Shoots.

Coffee at Harris + Hoole. It was not very good and I did not enjoy. I did not enjoy last Friday either.

I asked, has the coffee changed since the summer or is it me?

No, the coffee has not changed.

It is me, I have been spoilt by being served coffee in Athens last couple of weeks by champion baristas.

Only one person serving and making the coffee. Death by a thousand cuts by tax-dodging Caffe Nero. Contrast with several people serving in Krema in Farnham.  The difference being Krema an indie coffee shop, not owned by a  greed-driven corporation.

Guildford farmers market

August 1, 2017

First Tuesday of the month, Guildford farmers market in the High Street.

A pleasant warm and sunny afternoon.

Walking up and down the market, I notice the absent of regulars, who have been absent since the debacle last year when the farmers market was relocated to a  car park. The same location where The Village is an unmitigated diesaster indicating no lessons have been learnt.

Bread and a couple of sweet ad savoury pastries of Celtic Bakers.

The apple stall, new season Discovery.

I had a chat about coffee cupping at Taylor St Roasted, the different varieties from the same estate.  The man was able to point to the apples and tell me which trees they came from, differences most people would not even notice.

No dosa. Queues when I passed by earlier, when I returned later nothing left.

By now very hungry.

I set off for Canopy Coffee, but coffee shops are never good places to eat, or rarely so.

I passed by Bamboo Shoots in Jeffries Passage, a Singapore noodle joint. I decided to have honey coated crunchy chicken.

The man asked if I remembered the Chinese girl. Yes, I was about to ask about her. She had graduated and left the country.

When we met, she shared her tea with me. I in return took her for a coffee.

We had a brief conversation about tea. He imports tea from China and India, maybe around 50 different loose leaf teas.

He knew of Imperial Teas, halfway up Steep Hill in Lincoln.

He kindly gave me a small sample of Dragon Well, a Chinese tea, explained how to brew.

I say kindly gave, £20 per 50 grams, very expensive tea.

What I had was quite spicy, I needed to remove the taste as was going to try high quality coffee at Canopy.

I tried Purbeck stem ginger ice cream. Very poor quality ice cream. if not for the ginger, it would have been even worse. I suggested he try Dylan’s ice cream. Either from the van on the farmers market or from The Village.

And on to Canopy Coffee, a quick look in Food for Thought. A young guy working there who I had talked about coffee a few weeks ago thanked me for recommending to him Union coffee.

Cappuccino in Canopy, then try Geisha, brewed with a Kalita Wave, which I took along for them to try. It was excellent.

Canopy Coffee is a connoisseurs coffee shop, ever changing coffee to try.

Today North Star but will not be available until the weekend.

Sue who organises the farmers market, it was her last day, she retires. I would have said goodbye and wished her well, but she was too busy chatting with her cronies.

Anyway, all the best Sue.

Guildford farmers market

June 7, 2017

A blustery  day.

Many stallholders failed to turn up, others turned up then packed up, the market started to pack up early  afternoon.

All in all a wasted trip.

Depressing to see stallholders buying drinking coffee from Costa and tax-dodging Caffè Nero. Support local producers, do as we say, not as we do.

Why no indie coffee stall on the market, one at the top one at the bottom of the market? Stalls serving speciality coffee, roasted locally.

Godalming has an excellent street food market in July, why not Guildford, why not August, along the High Street, overflow into Tunsgate? It is not too late to organise for August or September.

There is one in Allen House Grounds. Waste of time, wrong location, few are aware.

Bedda, two Sicilian guys serving excellent pasta are a must for the market. They have applied, why have they not been invited?

A new coffee coffee  shop Esquires Coffee has opened top of the High Street. Do not waste the effort  on a trek to the top of the High Street as wasted effort.  Not worth a visit. Clueless on coffee.  Two serving could  not have been more miserable  if they tried.

Guildford farmers market is held first Tuesday of the month.

Street Food Picnic Allen House Grounds 17 June 2017.

Godalming Food Festival 1 July 2017.

Guildford farmers market

May 2, 2017

After a chilly start, the afternoon was quite pleasant. A marked contrast to the wintry weather yesterday.

Reserved my bread and flapjacks at Celtic Baker to collect later.

Excellent dosa from the chutney stall. Far superior to the dosa I had at the South Bank Street Food Market yesterday.  Ollo Foods is an absolute must for Godalming Food Festival and Staycation Live.

At least one new stall. A man selling quality pork pies. That was all he was selling, pork pies.

The farmers market is turning into Alcoholics Alley. Too many stalls selling alcoholic drinks. One fruit and vegetable stall I never buy from, poor standard, rarely fresh produce, high prices. Today they had sunk to a new low. Bags of plastic wrapped apples, the apples rotten.

Does the market not exact any standards, as other markets do?

It is not acceptable anyone selling produce that is packaged in a way that is not compostable or recyclable. This should be a condition to be on the market.

When did Environmental Health last do a check on this market? Have they ever carried out checks? Or is there a conflict of interest at play?

Why is there no quality coffee stall on the market?

Two ladies were giving away cakes. Not sure why, but the cakes were excellent. They were from a group that discusses dying. I mentioned death cafes, and referred them to an article in Standart issue 7.  They were aware of death cafes.

It was then a coffee in Harris + Hoole. Tax dodging Caffè Nero has taken a stake. Does this mean H+H now serve the same low quality coffee? Fortunately not.

Guildford farmers market

November 1, 2016
Secrett's Farm cauliflowers

Secrett’s Farm cauliflowers

A cold, grey, misty day.

No surprise not many people around, although the Celtic Baker stall had almost sold out.

Last week I visited a new shop in Guildford, a cheese shop cum deli, in Chapel Street. Knowledgeable staff, excellent choice of cheese. I suggested a few stalls on the farmers market whose produce they may wish to stock. I also said, as I knew them, I would have a word.

This I did. Chutney no, can barely meet demand. Little Beer Corporation and apple stall with fruit juices, yes, were interested.

It also helps with delivery, on market once a month, can drop off supplies.

Ollo Foods

Ollo Foods

Excellent dosa off chutney stall, Ollo Foods. Absolute must for Staycation Live.

A couple of stalls, maybe more, have dropped out since the car park fiasco whilst the setts were being relaid in the High Street. The excellent pie stall will be much missed, and the paella stall.

I did not check what the new paella stall was serving in, already packing up.

Low environmental standards on the market.

If London South Bank Street Food Market and many if not all music festivals can set high environmental standards, then why not Guildford for its own farmers market? Only one word, hypocrisy.

When Godalming, and many other places, have a street food market, some  like Godalming  once a year, some like Winchester every week on a Wednesday, then why not Guildford?

August or September would be ideal.

And why no coffee stall serving high quality coffee? It is not acceptable that Costa and tax-dodging Starbucks serving undrinkable disgusting coffee are allowed to dictate what happens on the High Street.

And shame on any producer who gets their coffee from these chains when Guildford has indie coffee shops, including Surrey Hills Coffee, just off the High Street in Chapel Lane. When on the one hand they expect us to support local producers, maybe time to practice what they preach.  Again one word to describe this behaviour, hypocrisy. Though I could add, stupidity.

And where are the Environmental Heath Inspectors? No problem on a cold day, but when I see meat and poultry in the sun when 30C in the shade, then there is cause to worry, as it says the stalls have not a clue how to handle food. If this is what I see in public gaze, what happens behind the scenes?

Looked in on Ben in Ben’s Records. Nothing by Agnes Obel. I suggested check her out.

cheese cum deli in Chapel Street

cheese cum deli in Chapel Street

Walked down Castle Street, popped in cheese shop cum deli. Let them know I had spoke as promised to a  few stalls.

For the last hour, getting very cold, cold mist making it worse.

cappuccino in Harris Hoole

cappuccino in Harris Hoole

Cappuccino in Harris + Hoole. I could have popped in one of the indie coffee shops, sadly Harris + Hoole now owned by Cafe Nero, but they all close early, and in Harris + Hoole I am guaranteed a constantly good coffee.  Unlike Caracoli, where the manager knows nothing about coffee and makes himself a laughing stock.  It is a tragedy the indie coffee shops close early, as in the summer they are turning away a constant flow of customers.

I was served an excellent cappuccino, but then barista said no, you deserve better.

Then when I left, served another two coffees.

Very impressed.  A barista who takes a pride in his work.

Two coffee places vie for No 1, depends who is serving, FCB kiosk on Platform 2 at Guildford Station and Harris + Hoole. Surrey Hills Coffee comes in at No 3.

Which again begs the question, why oh why, no quality coffee stall on the market, other than objections from Costa and Starbucks?

Guildford farmers market back in the High Street

September 6, 2016
Guildford farmers market back in High Street

Guildford farmers market back in High Street

After an absence of many months, with loss of most of the clientele and stalls dropping off month by month, Guildford farmers market is finally back in the High Street.

The High Street was busy, though not for want of publicity. More should have been done to publicise and to make the return to the High Street a special event.

From conversations I overheard, there may have been many people, maybe end of school holidays, but they were not there for the farmers market. People were genuinely surprised at finding it was there, were asking how often, when will you be back?

Stalls reported the same. A curious interest, people browsing, but not buying.  Though they of course did a far better trade than the car park which was always deserted.

Dylan’s ice cream did not seem to be doing its usual trade. Hardly surprising. The owner not there. A lad, more interested playing with his phone and listening on his headphones, than actually doing a day’s work and serving customers. Then he vanished, leaving the van with a closed sign.

The majority of stalls appear to have reappeared. Although I did not see the man with his pies. I thought the fish cake stall was not there, but then found them

Stalls said they pulled out of the car park, because they could not sustain the losses.

Excellent sweetcorn off Secrett’s Farm. As were the Marjoram plums.

From the apple stall, apples and apple juice.

Celtic Baker seeded wholemeal loaf and a couple of date slices.

Dosa to eat for my lunch from Ollo Foods.

Ollo Foods with their Indian food would be an ideal stall for Staycation Live.

There is still no tea or coffee stall on the farmers market. It is time this omission was addressed. For quality tea or coffee, choose from Vintage Pop Up Tea Room found in Gostrey Meadow in Farnham on a Saturday during the summer, Flat White on street food market in Winchester on a Wednesday, The HoBo Co or Jimmy Bean. For beans, Surrey Hills Coffee, who now have a coffee shop in Chapel Street, just off the High Street.
A very warm and humid day. Possible 25C. Why then stalls with meat sitting all day on the stall in the heat? Why is Environmental Heath turning a blind eye?

At 2-30, I found a guide at Tunsgate who was giving a free guided tour of Victorian buildings in Guildford. I expected a lot of people. There were two ladies, one from the States. I said I would join but had a couple of stalls to visit. I caught  up with them at Holy Trinity Church.

Inside Holy Trinity, half a dozen ceramic pieces on exhibit. I assume that is the art exhibition.

Holy Trinity has an apse. Maybe not true for Holy Trinity, but this feature, as did many features of English churches, come from El Camino de Santiago. The purpose was, as the altar would often have some relic, to aid circulation around the altar.

On the far wall, Holy Trinity used to have  a row of windows at ground level below the existing windows. Not that they would have let in much light as the below the ground level outside.

I always thought the mound behind the church was the existence of a chamber beneath. Apparently not. It was simply the spoil dumped there when work was done on the church.

Many of the buildings in Guildford designed by Henry Peake.

Alice Through the Looking Glass

Alice Through the Looking Glass

A detour in the Castle Grounds, designed by Henry Peake, to show the lady from the US, Alice Through the Looking Glass.

As we passed down Quarry Street, I draw attention to the Victorian porch on the church and the plans by Methodists, who appear to have hijacked  St Mary’s, to demolish  the Victorian porch and replace with a toilet block. Our guide was suitably horrified, the first he had heard of this.

refreshing green smothie in what used to be Glutton & Glee

refreshing green smoothie in what used to be Glutton & Glee

After our tour, a much needed smoothie in what used to be Glutton & Glee. As I walked in, not long gone 4-30, greeted by ‘We close at five’. Why oh why do they not stay open later in the summer? To close at five is far too early.

Peake's Pond in Castle Grounds

Peake’s Pond in Castle Grounds

Sat in the Castle Grounds reading Debt.

1900 train to Aldershot running 15 minutes late. Which then meant missed bus.

Guildford farmers market

August 2, 2016
all but desrted Guildford farmers market

all but deserted Guildford farmers market

Last night heavy rain all night. This morning still very wet. The day was warm and humid.

Cappuccino off FCB kiosk on Platform 2 Guildford Station. A new girl doing the coffee, nevertheless, she made a decent cappuccino.

FCB and Harris + Hoole occupy the top coffee slots in Guildford. Surrey Hills Coffee  a distant third. Caracoli a laughing stock whilst clueless manger who is ignorant on coffee. Forget the chains with their disgusting undrinkable coffee.

As a result of stopping for a coffee and a long chat, arrived about hour and a half later than I had intended at the farmers market.  Had it been in the High Street, there would have been nothing left, but located where it is, in a car park, the producers arrive with their produce, then take it back.

Even though I was late, there was actually more people than I have seen at this location. By no means busy, but at least not deserted.

Observing, most of the business appeared to be between stalls, lack of customers meant they had time to wander around.

Each time I visit, more stalls have dropped out. Noticeable by their absence, honey, tomatoes, garlic, fish cakes, sea food, pies, potting plants, beer, wine, fruit and  vegetables, ice cream, and  that is only a few I could mention.

Having had a wander around I decided upon a grilled sausage, only it was not cooked. I said I would pop back when cooked.

Apple stall, no apples yet, but had jam. I picked out strawberries, jam and an apple juice with ginger. He put them to one said to pick up later.

A stall I do not normally drop by, Ollo Foods, mainly because pickles and chutneys, of which I have no interest. They were about to pack up, and asked would I like to try what they had left which had just been cooked. Is it hot? Yes. OK.

I had a dosa. It was excellent. They served on a paper plate.

Dosa is an Indian dish from south India. A sort of pancake made with rice.  Near Euston Station, down the back streets, are Indian restaurants, where sometimes I have dosa. They are stuffed.

I then remembered. The sausage. I went back.

By now full.

How often does Environmental Heath visit the farmers market? I have never seen a visit.

If a supermarket had a delivery of poultry or meat, left outside for hours, questions would be asked. Why then is it ok on a farmers market, poultry and meat on a stall all day in temperatures above 20C?  Sticking a probe into a piece of meat, reaching a minimum temperature, does not indicate that it is cooked.

Looking at the High Street, barring anything unforeseen, the farmers market should be back in the High Street for September, as the work is almost finished.  But in the meantime, stallholders have lost a lot of money, lost most of their client base, and the general populace thinks the farmers market no longer exists. It is going to take many  months to recover.

Today, they actually got their pitches free.

But they should have had free, or at least at much reduced rate, whilst not in the High Street.

Once back in the High Street, each stall, for the number of times they have been in the car park, should get that number of times at a reduced rate in the High Street. That is the least the council can do.

Charging High Street pitch fees when not in the High street is tantamount to fraud.

And it is complete bullshit the claim the council was losing parking fees. There are plenty of free spaces in other car parks.

There has to be something special for the next market in the High Street.

Make it a  street food festival, then make it an annual event.

If Godalming can hold a highly successful street food market, then so can Guidlford. This year there was even more stalls.

Publicity is needed. and not adverting on a rubbish commercial radio station that no one listens to.

It needs editorial in local media. Posters.

A banner maybe across the High Street.

There also needs to be something special when people turn up, to encourage people to turn up.

Hampshire has goodies at some of its markets.

Have each stall donate something, the greater the donation the better. Not obligatory, but hopefully all will cooperate. Buy anything from any stall, be entered into a draw for what has been donated. Draw to take place at the end of the market.

The market has to have a coffee van serving top quality coffee. There is no excuse for not having.  An obvious choice the  Vintage Pop Up Tea Room found in Gostrey Meadow in Farnham on a Saturday during the summer.  Or The HoBo Co or Jimmy Bean.  There is also no excuse for producers drinking takeaway coffee from Costa or tax-dodging Starbucks. If nothing else, appalling hypocrisy. If they expect us to support them, then they in turn should support local indie coffee shops. The same of course applies to the market itself, support local, support quality. .

First Tuesday of September Guildford High Street?

Disastrous Guildford farmers market

July 5, 2016
deserted Guildford farmers market

deserted Guildford farmers market


deserted Guildford farmers market

Compared with a couple of weeks ago, River Wey now at usual slow steady pace.

During the winter, Guildford farmers market tends to be rather dreary, but at this time of years, at its best, lots of fresh fruit and vegetables.

But sadly not, a very sorry market. Devoid of people, few stalls, and still not in the High Street.

I feel sorry for the producers, they bring their produce, then take it back again.

The sausages and roast pork, when in the High Street, an orderly queue, today I did not see a solitary person, a large joint of roast pork, sitting there.

Contrast this with Godalming Food Festival on Saturday, many stalls and the street packed.

And what is tantamount to fraud, the stallholders are being charged the same pitch fees as though they are in the High Street.

From when I last visited, I can count several stalls who are no longer there. I can only assume they wisely chose to cut their losses.

The Council would counter they are losing fees from the car park, but that is pathetic bollocks. Yes, maybe a loss from this specific car park, but do these visitors no longer come to Guildford? Of course not, they park elsewhere in another car park. This argument would only be true if it was Christmas and all the car parks were full. And then, it beggars belief, they cut the cost of the car parks or make them free.

There is absolutely no excuse for the disgusting manner in which Guildford Council has treated their farmers market. The norm for worthless councillors who sit on councils and the useless jobsworths they employ.

And why do we not have  a coffee stall on the market? No excuse if from a local roaster, as meets the criteria for the market.

At the very least, when they relocate back to the High Street, the stallholders should be granted as many weeks free, as they have paid for the car park. and even that would not make up their losses.

Last two weeks, a craft fair has been in the High Street.

The farmers market could have been distributed, part in the High Street, on the Bridge and into Tunsgate. Or on the Bridge and along the river, or in the cat park at Milmead, or in North Street and flow into the side streets, or in Castle Street or even in the Castle Grounds. In other words anywhere other the appalling location in which it has now been stuck for several months whilst the High Street has been dug up.

What will now happen, if the market moves back into the High Street in September if they are lucky, they will find they have lost most of their custom. Having not seen a market in the High Street for many months, people will assume Guildford no longer hosts a farmers market. It will probably take at least a year to recover.

Something Guildford could do, make September market assuming in the High Street a food festival like Godalming Food Festival, then make it an annual event.

To eat I went to the Thai restaurant takeaway top of the High Street. It was excellent. Although I felt a little guilty, maybe I should have eaten off the farmers market, after all they needed the custom.

On my way, I popped in Food For Thought. Thy were experimenting with fresh juices, though more to flog a juicer. £200, special offer from £300. Got to be joking. They justified the price on the grounds it had an industrial motor.

Whilst I was in the Thai takeaway, a woman came in who was off her head. Loud, aggressive with a serious attitude problem. She had the look of a junkie who lives on the street.

I would have had a cappuccino and a cookie in Surrey Hills Coffee only it was nearly five, they close at five and they never have cookies.

I am at a loss why these indie coffee shops close so early. In the winter yes but in the summer no.

I decided to try Caracoli. I have never been impressed by Winchester or Farnham, but they bragged stunning view of Guildford High Street and they were open until six.

I sat in their rooftop terrace. Yes, stunning view down the High Street, though obscured by glass. Both cappuccino and cookie were good, sadly an unbelievable surly girl serving. I tried a fresh apple juice that too was good.

They sell beans but no roast date which is a serious deficiency, as as I assume they do not roast the beans, they should put the roaster, not brand as their own.