Today MPs debate whether or not to bomb Syria.
David Cameron has refused a two day debate, refused to grant his MPs a free vote, refused to apologise for his disgraceful remark last night that those who oppose bombing of Syria are sympathisers of terrorists.
Meanwhile public support is melting away as people wake up to the lies they are being told.
Speaking on Wato lunchtime today, a Tory MP claimed British air strikes would degrade Isis.
So what has over a month of Russian air strikes, over a year of American air strikes done?
David Cameron has a point, if forces in Iraq are threatened by Isis over the border, we should not let an arbitrary line deter us, but that is a different matter.
We are not re-enacting WWII, easily defined targets, airfields, command posts, railway lines, sidings, power stations, factories, where the enemy is seriously degraded.
The myth of forces on the ground has been exposed as just that, a myth.
There are forces on the ground, many are as bad as Isis, if not worse. Their interest is holding on to their existing territory. They are not going to take the fight to Isis, neither are the Kurds.
If there are forces on the ground, attacking Isis or under attack by Isis, call for air support, that is a different matter.
David Cameron says we are already under threat from Isis. Bombing will increase that threat. That is not an argument against effective action, any action would increase that threat, but effective action would reduce in the long term.
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